File this under “couldn’t really see this one coming but also sounds about right.”

As the mastermind behind the wildly successful Broadway musical Hamilton, Lin-Manuel Miranda has pretty much been The Man in 2016. But things weren’t always so sweet for the kid. In a recent interview on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast, he recounts that he was not only bullied while in high school — but the bully in question was none other than political rapper/revolutionary Immortal Technique.

“He was our school bully. He terrorized kids, he threw them in the garbage,” said Miranda. “I got thrown in the garbage by him.” Anyone familiar with Tech’s gruff and aggressive presence on the microphone might not find this totally surprising, but what may be more of a shocker (besides the sheer coincidence that these guys went to school together) is the fact that they also shared a theatre connection early on. “He got a part senior year [in their school play] and I was like, ‘Oh my god, I’m in a fucking play with the dude that scares the shit out of all my friends’,” he noted.

Lest anyone suspect that this marks the beginning of one of the most bizarre beefs in hip hop yet, it would seem that both parties have moved past this awkward stage. Immortal Technique has enjoyed a healthy career in hip hop’s underground and aligned himself with various social causes over the years, while Miranda ostensibly has more money than God at this point. Miranda also pointed out that he has quite a bit of admiration for his former bully’s career, post-high school.

“He’s one of the most political, ideological [emcees]. He really made an incredible life for himself as a rapper,” said Miranda. “He was a really angry kid, and it’s been wonderful to watch him grow up and find a political outlet for that anger.”

Miranda’s The Hamilton Mixtape drops on December 2nd and features a star-studded array of guests including the Roots, Miguel, John Legend, Busta Rhymes, Jill Scott, Sia, Alicia Keys, Regina Spektor, and more.

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